Reviews should START with accuracy results First. OUT OF STOCK (1) Savage 12 12FVSS Varminter Stainless .270 WSM. I somewhat doubt that you have that particular model (unless you have a special-order from the factory), as the 12 LRP is only available in .243 Win, 6.5 Creedmoor, and .260 Remington. Thanks for the insight on the 5-R. Haven’t actually decided between the gen. 1 or 2, leaning toward the shiny one though. When the bolt is slowly cycled, the problems disappears. With the trigger set to the heaviest pull weight (10 oz), the second problem goes away, but the first persists. Although I haven’t officially ruled out Satan…. UPC: 11356191366 Item: SS-71096 Be the first to leave a review and receive a $10 on your next order! Shoot a lot — and I hope you do — and you’ll be needing a new barrel eventually. Plus for benchrest or F-class, where many if not most shooters shoot with a light hold or free recoil, you do want a single stage that goes down into the single digit ounces (like a Jewell). I can imagine that someone with excellent shooting ability, match grade ammunition, and a high-quality shooting rest/jig, would probably shoot even better groups. The "go-switch" on the Model 12 LRPV is Savage's AccuTrigger. That’s fun, and instructive as to what one can hit at longer distance. In other words you could have a perfect barrel and perfect ammunition and still see a one-inch shot group. Your email address will not be published. The most important reason: that reduces variability because of cross winds. The numbers don’t lie. Three have the Sharpshooter Supply (SSS) Competition trigger, which you can get from Brownells and goes down to 8oz, and one has the Evolution trigger, which requires a trip back to SSS but goes down reliably to 2oz like a Jewell benchrest trigger. Features include user-adjustable AccuTrigger™ technology, an oversized bolt handle, a detachable box magazine and a striking wood laminate stock with satin finish. My future father in law letting me borrow his Savage Model 12 LRP in .243 WIN is one of those points. At 100 yards it was literally a 6 inch shot group. In our three 12 Series rifle comparison article (see the Product Review Page), all three 12 Series models delivered a best 3-shot, 100 yard group measuring only 1/4". I use the average group radius method for measuring consistency with all my tests. That weight shows you exactly what this rifle is made for — carrying little, shooting much. Savage doesn’t have a poor rep for reliability, so it’s a real head-scratcher that this rifle has a Russian Roulette trigger. The first is that the AccuTrigger safety bar will not disengage. For a stock rifle of its kind in this price range, the Model 12 Long Range Precision performs very well. At some point, you just get lucky. Of course, the defining characteristic of any specialized varmint rifle is accuracy. For those wanting to know more on the method, I may make a request to our resident math nerd. More Gun Reviews. ), but it had somewhere between a couple hundred and less than a thousand rounds through it. When you are stalking a field of groundhogs or calling coyotes, you need to be able to sit with your rig for extended periods. BTHP's which I knew would be iffy since the LRP has a 9.25 twist rate. Rate of Twist (in):1 in 8 It’s also a head-scratcher that H-S Precision is still in business, after hiring former FBI agent Lon Horiuchi as a celebrity spokesman. He bought the gun last year for long range target shooting with some varmint hunting mixed in for good measure. Used Savage, Model 12 LRP, re-barreled using 28" Criterion Barrel, chambered in 243 Win, this also has the adjustable cheek piece added to the butt stock as seen in the photos., lead shot was also added to the butt stock, making the gun and scope 17 lbs. These long range bench rifles are just too heavy. Barrel Length (in): 26 Savage Model 12 Long Range Precision rifle muzzle (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com). Length of Pull (in): 13.75 Development of a custom load at home would likely produce even better results. And to emphasize my newfound delight, I purchased the same rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor two weeks ago on sale for $225 after factory rebate. But there is a serious error which misleads in this review. Lazzeroni? I tried tightening the mounting screws on the mounting rail but they would never get very tight. TTAG is always looking for writers. No complicated gates or other devices. By Bryce M. Towsley. It is offered in 243, 6.5 Creedmor, and 260Rem. Stock Color: Black If I had a 500 yard indoor range to control wind and other atmospherics, it would make sense. Type: Centerfire barrel that I had used for F-class with 2000 rounds down the tube. Overall Length (in): 46.25 My first “real” rifle was a custom Mauser in 6.5-08 that my grandfather had built for a safari. Our single-shot, bolt-action Model 12 LRPV delivers exceptional long-range accuracy. I’ve been very happy with my Remington 5-R in .308Win. FREE Curbside or In-Store Pick Up. I’ve been a 6.5 guy ever since and I own a whole bunch that never caught on. OUT OF STOCK (2) Savage 12 12FV Varminter .204 Ruger. Without it, even if the sear dropped from being jarred, the block should keep the firearm from discharging. We consider that to be pretty phenomenal! The bolt never had any issue pushing the round from the magazine. Going to try and get that up and running next spring. I was astounded at how accurate it was. The best shooting factory round was the 140gr Hornady ELD-Match round, producing extremely consistent 1/2″ groups. Savage 12 lrpv 22 250 and Ruger RPR 243 Win 600 yrds I just want to know what factory ammo works well with it, and make sure it’s properly sighted in.” Then he handed me about a hundred rounds of 58 gr. Savage Criterion Barrels | Savage Pre-fit Barrels | Savage Replacement Barrels Northland Shooters Supply currently stocks Criterion hand lapped match grade Savage pre fit barrels (Savage Replacement Barrels) in both small and large shanks. In our three 12 Series rifle comparison article (see the Product Review Page), all three 12 Series models delivered a best 3 … OUT OF STOCK (0) Savage 112 112BVSS Varmint .25-06 Remington. One last note about comfort. You can obviously check that your scope mount is solid — just try to wiggle it with your hands. cross winds) is 0.3 inches, a much smaller change. Whereas I can do about forty rounds with my little Ruger Mark II before I throw in the towel, I had no problem slinging hundreds of rounds downrange with the Savage. As I have found with just about every single modern rifle, the stock comb is cut too low for use with a 50 mm objective riflescope. Savages are great. 0. All tests were done with a clean, room temperature barrel at 100 yards at my local indoor range. The standard Savage short action detachable box magazine holds four rounds, double stacked with the exception of the top round. H&S precision stock, 26 fluted bull barrel with deta for sale by Zwachy71 on GunsAmerica - 949907008 Savage Arms 18146. When it comes to stock actions, I find them fundamentally better than the ubiquitous Remington. I just checked my average Mean Radius (Average to Center) data for nearly 748 five-shot groups from my .223 Howa using mostly hand loads, but some factory ammo too, and mostly at 100 yards with some at 200 yards. Did anybody see the review in F&S of the new Savage 12 LRP 223? Your email address will not be published. When I am finished sighting in, I might take a few shots at 100 yards just to verify that group sizes have not completely gone out the window and to verify that my group is hitting above the point of aim by the amount that ballistic calculators predict. A big star off for no length of pull or comb height adjustment and a lack of a threaded muzzle. I called Seekins up but the person I spoke with suggested I verify from the Savage end of things. - Savages barrels are easy to swap and headspace with hand tools, no lathe required. As you start squeezing, you’ll find the whole unit is locked down. And I feel a little sick. Love the accuracy and reliability of the rifle, HATED the trigger. V-Max down range. Barrel Finish: Matte to 12 m.p.h. A-max and hornady 105 gr. “Can’t wait to see what it’ll do.” The trigger, however, is plenty light. In fact, the first few rounds flew wild as I mashed my way through the safety zone and kept right on chugging. This is my first time spending any significant time behind an AccuTrigger and I was definitely pleased. . Savage 12 Long Range Precision 6.5 Creedmoor Bolt-Action Rifle $1,288.00 $959.99; Brand: Savage; Item Number: 19137; Savage 11 Trophy Hunter XP 6.5 Creedmoor Left Handed Package $629.00 $473.86; Brand: Savage; Item Number: 19697; Savage 11 Trophy Predator Hunter 6.5 Creedmoor Mossy Oak Brush with Scope $713.00 $539.98; Brand: Savage; Item Number: 22216; Savage Axis II … Pingback: tikka, savage or ? You’re right – I worded that badly. I have bought 2 Savage axis II XPs in the last 2 weeks. The 12 Long Range Precision features user-adjustable Target AccuTrigger™ technology for fine-tuning trigger pull from 6 ounces to 2.5 pounds. QuoteOne last note about comfort. Looks like it can shoot right out of the box, now if theyd only drop the price a little from $900 MSRP. Overall Rating * *1/2 (as tested) * * * * (with a trigger fix) Still, with the wide swell along the sides, the saddle gets a great grip on the gun, and it’s very stable from this position. I have tried 105 gr. SAV 12 LRP 243 26 DM RB/RP 4: UPC: 011356191366: MPN: 19136: Model: MODEL 12: Savage Arms MODEL 12 243 19136 No reviews have been written for this product. That is a HUGE difference if you are trying to determine which bullets group the best AND IF YOU ARE TRYING TO ALIGN YOUR SCOPE with point of impact. With the length and profile of the heavy barrel, the balance of the rifle is a few inches in front of the receiver, even with the heavy stock and a heavy scope mounted. First, let’s talk comfort. Thanks M47Patton. Stock Material: Synthetic There’s no need to read all the other good or bad points if the firearm won’t deliver with its primary task. Gone are the days when a new shooter had to sell a kidney and maybe a child to get a competitive bolt gun. 5R rifling, 7 twist, 26 inches, threaded, medium palma contour. Savage Model 110: Gun Reviews. The Model 12 Long Range Precision rifle features a heavy 26″ barrel. Your mileage might vary…. Looking forward to it so hope it works wel. Why not a 8 twist so you can shoot the heavy bullet that are needed for long range shooting. Nice rig, and I’m glad to see that your father-in-law went with high quality optics instead of a Walmart $88 scope. I hope the trigger problem is easily fixed with minimal hassle. Listening to him recount the sad story of his ownership a few weeks ago, I (jokingly) offered to take it off his hands for a few weeks. I have tried 105 gr. Therefore I use not only the gun safety but a safer carrying method as well. My all-time best average radius is .053″. Accuracy * * * * * On my Savage HMR .17 I replaced the terrible trigger (not an accutrigger) with a machined spring loaded block type that is adjustable from 10 oz to 1.5 lbs or so. Can’t understand why Savage put a 9.25 twist on a “long range” rifle. This one was set at 14.4 oz on my Lyman trigger scale, just barely shy of a single pound. The real joy however, was seeing how it shot hot. Savage Model 12 Long Range Precision Target Accutrigger (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com). I will try other ammunition with that rifle. At 100 yards the difference in wind drift due to differences in cross wind speed is about 0.80 inches. When I picked it up for review, it didn’t include a barrel log book (SHAME! Reference my table above and you’ll see the exact same measurement for the cold bore test. and 6.5mm Creedmoor. When it works, it works great. - Page 2 - Shooters Forum, .224 cal twist rate query.... - Page 2 - Shooters Forum, Gear Review: Rifle Basix SAV-1 Trigger | God of Guns, Gear Review: Rifle Basix SAV-1 Trigger | Freedom Newz, Gear Review: Rifle Basix SAV-1 Trigger - Defense Alliance Group, Gear Review: Rifle Basix SAV-1 Trigger – pistolponies, Gear Review: Rifle Basix SAV-1 Trigger | Firearms Life, MSRP: $1124 with Guns America showing it for. - Page 2 - Shooters Forum, am i the only one that isnt very impressed by the groups shown? It is with the 12 Series Varmint rifles that Savage initially made the leap from building excellent, low cost sporting rifles to … The finish is done well, but there’s nothing particularly striking about the gun in any way. Savage - You can find savage barrels all over the place. I used an retired .260 Rem. It also uses the same barrel nut system, allowing the shooter to easily and inexpensively swap out barrels with just a couple of gauges and a barrel nut wrench. Three shooters, only one of whom had ever shot a center-fire rifle before and even then not much, got behind the gun. In any of the calibers it’s chambered in, the Model 12 Long Range Precision has almost no noticeable recoil. Once I’d sorted out seating depths I was getting 1/3 inch groups at 100 yards. Naturally this experience lead me to pursue another 12, this time the LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor now that I have access to a 600 yard range. All shooting was accomplished with the supplied Nightforce NXS 8-32X56 turned to 32X magnification from a Caldwell Stinger shooting rest. It’s always a little harder to take those inches away, which is why those of smaller stature may need to reconsider this rifle, or be willing to do a little surgery to get the stock where you need it. Take a look at the targets to see why. GUN COLLECTIONS WANTED FOR CASH! After having it chopped and re-crowned, it still holds 3/8-1/2 moa with 5-10 shot groups. It’s a traditional Savage bolt action rifle action. Another reason that I sight in at 50 yards: the intersection of the lines on the reticle look smaller relative to the target. Good luck. But since this gun was meant to sit on bags or on a bench anyway, adding the option of keeping it quiet certainly wouldn’t hurt, and could only serve to keep everyone’s hearing safe. The 12 FV comes with a synthetic stock, featuring dual pillars for a solid bedding platform. The enclosed action is stiffer than Savage's traditional open sporting receiver and has an ejection port on the right-hand side. Time for the bad news folks – this particular AccuTrigger was a dud. I only put 300 more through it for this review over the month I had it. The Savage Model 12 LRP is the company’s entry level rifle in their Target Line. 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